Another 2 practice ones done today. I feel I am starting to bore everyone with the silly amount of posts I do (he says seeking reassurance) so I won't post any more piggys unless they are more advanced in some way to previous ones. The red flew into the devil this time after swapping machines round (I won't mention that again either!) Thanks for looking p.s. anyone got tips on how to get an armband stencil right round top of the arm and make it meet at both ends?