Do I Need an Autoclave?

Discussion in 'Infection Control, Sterilization & Aftercare' started by barcode1973, 1 Feb 2011.

  1. barcode1973

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    Yeah I know I been doingb it less than a month but I have put in some heavy practicing and research in that month. I have just tattooed my girlfriend, she's put a pic on face book and now all her mates are volunterring themselves to me (for tattoos). If I am using disposable needles, tips, grips and tubes do I need an autoclave? I have an ultrasonic bath left over form my days as a mobile phones repair specialist (for cleaning circuit boards after water damage) It looks the same as the ones I seen advertised.

    I know obviously when (not if) I open a shop I'd need one and the it never crossed my mind to ask previos scratchers about the hygeine / sterilization procedures they used I just don't wanna make anyone ill and start as I mean to go on?
     
  2. Jared

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    If everything is disposable you don't need an autoclave. HOWEVER...you should still be using proper barriers, have an understanding of BBPs and CC, and use cold sterilization such as madicide on anything that is not disposable and for your work area.
     
  3. barcode1973

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    I know about bloodborne pathogens but I have to admit defeat on CC and I shall look into the rest.

    Thankyou for your advice
     
  4. skinpix

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    cc = cross contamination.
     
  5. barcode1973

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    Thanks Mark. I feel a bit of a lemon not working that out!

    (I was thinking of that song from the 90's you know? din, din dun dun din, din dun dun din, din dun dun EVERYBODY DANCE NOW?)
     
  6. Payne

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    I was about to ask a very similar question , regarding Autoclaves. totally at lost with them so many to choose from and yes very costly ( but then the safety of someones life is priceless).

    I have been using disposables too , but had the privilege of using steel grips when i first did some training and i prefer the weight of the steel grips to those disposable ones.

    As i am not any where near ready to venture out into the big wide world of tattooing i was looking for something small (autoclave) to use but at a lost to which would be best. hearing so many different advice and recommendations i am more confused now to when i had started looking.

    And can i say just quickly without sounding like a brown noser , how refreshing it is to see helpful responses back, i have been terrified of posting on some forums because of the offending comments. i am not a scratcher , i take pride in my work and thoroughly clean ( want to be even more so) i want to become better and exceed my own expectations. Just because someone is new to the tattooing industry dosent mean they dont respect the law's and techniques etc.. .

    i just want to learn. and this Autoclave malarky is confusing and i hate not understanding.

    i have ultra sonic cleaner , and i use disposables needles grips tips etc.. steel bin etc.. all cleaning liquids etc..

    Just this one thing i need assisting on , i will happily stick to disposables, but i love the weight.
     
  7. steveo9441

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    Hi Payne
    I like your style as i too love the weight of real steel and much prefer rather than disposables.
    Autoclaves are way out of my pocket, so guess it's going have to stick with disposables if i want to open my studio.
    Never be afraid to post/ask questions on here as we are all here to help each other ;)
     
  8. Payne

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    yeah i am thinking the same thing, but my lines never seem to come out as smooth when i use disposable to steel ??? where the heck am i going wrong lol

    and studio to work in one would be an achievement never mind opening one ( yes i can dream lol )
     
  9. toetoe62

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    first of all i would take the picture off face book you are providing evidence that you are tattooing without registration and the nasty tattoo police will come and take your gear away and you will have a big fine to pay, also please drop the word scratchers some find it offending, if you want to use steel tips then the cheapest type of Autoclave is the pressure cooker type, you can buy them for about £200, i use one and it works great, also like a lot of people on this site i have started to use the cheyenne hawk rotary machine which uses needle cartridges and so then you don't need to autoclave but they are expensive to buy and run.
    regards
    Tony
     
  10. Payne

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    thanks and facebook ? did i miss something
     
  11. toetoe62

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    no Payne I was referring to the original post from lee, a few people have been shut down and there equipment taken away, simply because they advertised on face book.
     
  12. Fozz

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    You just have to frequently check places like freecycle, ebay, etc etc..... It's very rare, but one turns up at a decent price every now and again...... In fact, I think someone from this forum was selling decent one a short while ago......

    And don't be afraid to ask questions here..... I'm sure I've asked the most ridiculous questions in my time here, but they're always met with warm and friendly replies......

    And I know what you mean about the other forums...... I usually just go on every now and again, kick off a bit and then leave..... I hate arrogant people, and the other forums are full of them.....
     
  13. Payne

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    Ahhh ok , yes i have seen a few posts in buy and sell groups advertising discount tattoo's for christmas :S

    and thanks Fozz i will have a nose of freecycle never heard of that one cheers
     
  14. skinpix

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    A 15 psi pressure cooker is sufficient to kill bbp(blood Bourne pathogens) on your equipment,they can be purchased for around 30 pounds from Robert dyas.When run at full temp they reach 132c,tubes should be in this temp for 30 mins min.this info was verified by my local council.Hope this helps.
     
  15. Payne

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    Cool thanks !
     
  16. steveo9441

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    Thanks for that Mark .... i am tempted ;)

    Robert dyas ? Have you a link to them ... Thanks
     
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  18. petrolhead19

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    Yeah good advice mate dont advertise your doing them on facebook or any other social network site, i know from experience, all my tattoo's i did were on facebook and i have had 2 letters 4 months apart from the local council about doing tattoo's, luckily i never got a home visit because i rang up and played dumb (not paying loads for equipment for it to get taken off me).
    But hopefully when i move into a house i will be converting a room properly into a little studio and getting full h&s certs and everything else you need.

    Until then never ever ever advertise without being licensed
     

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