cheers for the comments, oultimer wish i was a pro mate only picked a machine up 6 weeks ago,but for the 8 months before that i have been studying different styles doing alot of research and most importantly i draw evey spare minute i have,the best tip i have been given is to put a pencil in the machine instead of tubes an needles and draw with it,it helps build the mussels up in the wrist and hand you need for tattooing and gets ya used to the machine weight when you finally use it for tattooing and just by doing something simple like that makes a massive differance to the tattoo when you finally hit real skin:thumbsup:.