I used a 5rl and a 11rs and it is actually a small design about 3ins long although it looks bigger in the pic!i agree that i may have overworked part of it and it took about an hour to do I have been practicing on piggy for about 4 months and have done a few other small peices on myself that need a bit of touching up !i will post pics of these when finished .I know i've a lot to learn yet but in my opinion the best way to do that is to do as much on yourself as possable as well as piggy workwhat needles did you use ?? some areas look over worked,you should try smaller designs first,then work up to bigger ones...how long have you been tattooing ?? how long did the tribal take to do ??