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Is Kuro Sumi good tattoo ink?


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badass60617

just wanted to know if its good ink cause thats what there usein on me now.......it seems to get faded a little ......yes i take good care of it....
 
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tattoopheliac

I have never used the new colors Sumi put out. But by far there blacks are the best for deep dark tribal work. I believe there are much better color inks available than Sumi but I can not honestly speak from experience concerning there colors. Depending on the color you are interested in I use and recommend: Intenze, National, DMC, StarBright, and my own color pigments. I suggest avoid using Scream, MOM's, Prizm or any other cheap ink. If it is cheap it is so for a reason.

But to be honest there is no such thing as a best ink available. If there was we would all be using it. It all depends on the artist and what he/she prefers to work with.
 
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yes kuro sumi ink is the best ink you will probably find as long as it is the proper one and not a rip off. most tattooists use it and find the never use anything else again.
 

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I use MOMS and Skin Candy.
Its thick, but good stuff!

Inked, dont let Miami Ink rule your thoughts. Its all for the cameras. Some of the things they do, would have you shut down inth UK.
 

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dont worry i dont i just think garther an vondi are very good artists what things do they do wrong
 
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in reply to the guy above ^ Kat von d uses eternal, also Chris Garver uses skin candy darks and intenze lights, you can see this in one of the traveling episodes on miami ink, and in la ink eternal is pretty much all you see in the shop (kat von d), as for kuro sumi, the original lining black is fantastic, the sumi colors range, as for the 15 colors i have tried react on my skin, and the black and red reacted on my buddy's skin also. My local tattoo studio sampled kuro sumi for a few days but they returned to eternal, however, its personal preferance.
 

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hi ,
yeh its a funny ink to use its great for grey wash the outline black,its hard to use for solid black work its duznt look black when you put it in but gets darker in the skin and can be very very black a lot of guys over work the skin to try and get it black,i use it all time but am thinking of maybe keeping it just for grey wash mix, as some one said some pepoles skin duznt take to well to kuro sumi, i will go back to intenze for black work ,funny how the grey wash is fine in pepoles skin but soild black isnt on some pepole, end of the day i think its what you like and what works for you all so kuro sumi is a bitch to clean out of you tips even in my ultrasonic i have to do them a cupla times but ive done a lot of top work with kuro sumi
 
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I agree with the lining ink thing it's mint for greywash but looks dark blue when say doing tribal but some it looks n stays jet black just depends on the skin I'd defo say intense for solid black iv used alot of color inks and will say moms is up there for solid bright Colors and to my surprise cheap immortal is very good too like there reds and orange and White too moms scabs pretty bad because it's alot thicker the dispersed inks heal alot quicker too. Another good ink is alla prima never had a bad color but getting back to kuro sumi color there great colors top quality and you can't really go wrong with them one thing to point out us that kuro sumi is acrylic so when healed will leave a shiny appearance not that it would put me off
 

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PLEASE READ
I am one of the few people that react very nastly to Red Ink, and have done on every tattoo I have had. Since I found this out I have researcehed inks for many months and found a lot out about fake inks.
Most genuine sellers will display there authorised distributor certificate on there site and will forward you a copy if requested along with a data sheet of what’s included in there inks.

Original Kuro Sumi ink is ok, However please be very careful when purchasing it look for:
  • The Kuro Sumi Embossed Logo at the neck of the Kuro Sumi bottle
  • Original Kuro Sumi dries like a very shinny thin film gel. Fake Kuro Sumi Outline inks dries powdery.
  • Always ask for Certificate of Authenticity from the seller of the Kuro Sumi Inks
  • Color names like “Tomato Red’, and “Forest Green”. Other colors may simply be called Yellow or Blue, and not by their Kuro Sumi names
  • If you bottle of ink says “Kurro Summi” or any variation of “Sumi” other than Kuro Sumi, than once again, it isn’t Kuro Sumi ink.
  • Fake Kuro Sumi ink also has a dark green apperance
The other concerning matter is reactions to this Fake Ink, on some people there skins starts to reject the ink and the tattoo starts fading people will start to feel an increased itching feeling after a week, which then gets worse and the skin becomes warm to the touch indicating an infection.

Your client may get sickness and vomiting symptoms and start feeling hot. If you do have these fake inks the best thing for you to do is poor it down the sink. If you have used any of these inks on anyone and they start showing these symptoms do not give medication advice but refer them immediately to there GP.


If anyone wants to check with me certain suppliers I have a list of websites selling fake ink.

The stuff coming from China is bootleg, plain and simple. It’s not real Kuro Sumi ink.


 

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Is piwerline and tattooshop ok mine had the embossed logo at the top if the bottle I reckon it's kosha but better to be safe than sorry
Yes both of those are ok, the ones you must look out for are imports from china.
 
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I was thinking of ordering Kuri Sumi Black outline ink when I need to restock. I normally order from Amazon.com does anyone know if the Kuro Sumi there is real?
 

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You realy need to order from an authorised distributer, saving *£5 is not worth it trust me.

There is also ebayers selling IntenZe ink which is fake IntenZe are trying to take legal action this seller has been selling fake ink since 2010. IntenZe have now changed there labels from the old yellow ones. also it never comes shrink/bubble wrapped.

Be carfeull
 
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I dont know of an authorized seller in the US that will sell to apprentices. Thats why I order from places like amazon/ebay.
 

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Hi, Try powerline, or the tattoo shop both based in UK and allow online ordering.

I know some people of here order from these suppliers.

Daz
 

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I am a bit worried, i have kuro sumi inks, if i put pictures up would you be able to tell if fake or not?
 

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There is an easy way to tell:

  • The Kuro Sumi Embossed Logo at the neck of the Kuro Sumi bottle
  • Original Kuro Sumi dries like a very shinny thin film gel. Fake Kuro Sumi Outline inks dries powdery.
  • Always ask for Certificate of Authenticity from the seller of the Kuro Sumi Inks
  • Color names like ââ*€šÂ¬Ã…*€œTomato Redââ*€šÂ¬Ã¢*€žÂ¢, and ââ*€šÂ¬Ã…*€œForest Greenââ*€šÂ¬Ã‚*. Other colors may simply be called Yellow or Blue, and not by their Kuro Sumi names
  • If you bottle of ink says ââ*€šÂ¬Ã…*€œKurro Summiââ*€šÂ¬Ã‚* or any variation of ââ*€šÂ¬Ã…*€œSumiââ*€šÂ¬Ã‚* other than Kuro Sumi, than once again, it isnââ*€šÂ¬Ã¢*€žÂ¢t Kuro Sumi ink.
  • Fake Kuro Sumi ink also has a dark green apperance
Where did you but them?
 

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As i am new to this, i am not sure, mine hav names forest green, koi yellow,bonsai blue,tomato red etc, i cant see the logo u mention, cant upload pic on this tablet, on back it has dates mfg 01/07/10 best by 07/13
 

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I personally wouldnt use them, have you contacted the supplier to see what they have to say etc
 
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Ive finally got some Kuro Sumi. :)

Havent opened it yet because Id like to make sure its real. It does have the embossed logo on the neck, says made in Japan, and the seller said it was 100% authentic. It was bought from piercingpros.com

Is there any other signs to look at before opening it?
 

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i just wanted to say that I just bought and used kuro sumi outlining ink and I am totally in love with it...It goes into the skin very smoothly and its like you're using marker almost..and it lasts a nice amount of time on the needle before i have to re dip. Before Kuro i was using star brite blacks and HUGE difference. Kuro kicks the shit out of star brite in my opinion..at least for outlining.
 
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i use k.sumi and its great i only ever use the black though because most of the tattoo's i do are black and grey rarely do any colour tat's
K.sumo black when healed is probably as black as it was when it was first done, all my tattoo's on me were done in k.sumo and there all still really dark black.
 

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I use Kokkai Sumi ink. I LOL'd when I first read the name. I only use it on the fake skins, its not too bad *£6 for a 4oz bottle :icon_cheesygrin:

it is advertised as lining ink but it is actually dark grey wash it even says it on the bottle. Stupid chinese site lol.

http://www.lightinthebox.com/Tattoo-Ink-1-Color-Black-120ml_p185417.html#my_review

I also got some cheap colour inks from the site. The ad says 2 black but it has 1 white and 1 black. Still they were still a good deal 14 1oz bottles for *£16

http://www.lightinthebox.com/High-quality-14-Color-Tattoo-Ink-Set--14-30ml_p185415.html?pos=ultimately_buy_3&currency=GBP

Again I only use these on fake skins.
 
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Thumbs up for kuro sumi.
They are great inks.
If you need super black ink for tribals etc. try kuro sumi's double sumi ink.
Its very black.Even if you thin it it's still blacker then some blacks on the market.
I did some gray washes with this and 1 drop of ink and 3 drops of water was still very black.I mean so black that you could color with it.
And the colors. Dragon breath red, fuji lavender,green apple blossom etc. i love them.
Give them a shot, im sure that you'll love them!
 

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i use skin candy cos miami ink use its the best
Sorry have to chime in on this one, Miami Ink sport it in their shops etc but don't actually use it, they cover all their labels but have heard loads of times that they just advertise it for the funds. I use Intenze, good fucking ink but all depends on the after care :3
 
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I have used Kuro Sumi Golden Yamabuki and it goes in great and heals nicely. Their Kimono pink goes in nicely. It is a very light pink. The only other Kuro Sumi color I have used is Sukai blue and I didn't care for it because it turned out way to light, but in fairness it could have just been how the person's skin took it. I will add that Kuro Sumi colors are very rich and creamy. When the bottles sit unused there isn't any settling/separation of pigment and carrier. I haven't had these pigments very long, and I generally use Intenze colors, but with Kuro Sumi's reputation for their excellent black I doubt very much that they would put their asses on the line by producing mediocre colors. Sorry that I haven't more info about their others yet, but they are obviously very good quality.
 
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just wanted to know if its good ink cause thats what there usein on me now.......it seems to get faded a little ......yes i take good care of it....
All tattoos generally fade 30% lighter. and the sun exposure will also fade it. but Kuri sumi is great ink. and it healed probably good. assuming your using authentic kuri sumi ink. heres a little secret for you guys.. mix the kuri sumi with Eternal triple black and it will be darker.. shhhhhhhh.
 
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The Kuro Sumi Inks I have don't have any color names on them that I see only the color of the bottle and on the back they all say tsumam. I am guessing they are fake
 

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they should only say kuro sumi anything else theyre fakes as for kuro as an ink ive used them a few times theyre great for what i like to call classic japanese work but i prefer intenze/eternal
 
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