P Spring Setups?

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ok im thinking of modifying my machine spring setups as mine came in a kit and seem to have the same springs on both machines and no gauge no.
what id like to know is what are the average spring setups for:

1.liner
2.shader
3.colour packer

and what effect it will have on my machines

thanks in advance mart
 

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Hi Martin,

short stroke liner = 0.019 front spring-0.018 rear spring. light armature bar.
long stroke liner = 0.020 front spring-0.019 rear spring. light armature bar.
shader = 0.016 front spring-0.017 rear spring. medium armature bar.
colour packer = 0.015 front spring-0.016 rear spring. heavy armature bar.

this is only a guide,as every one has their own personal preferences.hope this helps mate.:icon_cheesygrin:
 

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Thanks mark exactly the info I was looking for
just 1 thing when you say light or heavy armature bar how do I tell if I have light or heavy already?
 

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Thanks mark exactly the info I was looking for
just 1 thing when you say light or heavy armature bar how do I tell if I have light or heavy already?
Hi Martin,
Generally on a lightweight armature bar, the middle is hollowed out,or it has holes drilled in it.The armature bars that came with the machine are probably medium weight...if you want to make things easy,you can order fully assembled armature bar & spring sets,for liners/shaders,then just bolt them straight onto your machine...
Here is the link for them,http://www.shorehamsred.co.uk/page3.html
 

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Also a liner uses a short front spring & a shader uses a longer front spring.
 

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hey guys
im looking at geting a new set of springs. does it make any difference if the front spring has silver nipple? would that work best on a liner?
i found it on the link which was kindly posted before
http://www.shorehamsred.co.uk/page3.html
STAINLESS FRONT & BACK SPRING SET ââ*€šÂ¬Ã‹Å“Silver Contactââ*€šÂ¬Ã¢*€žÂ¢
i heard that silver works well i just want to have my liner working as smoovly as possible...
 

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ok just 1 more question haha.....what is the diffrence between a low lift and a high lift armature bar?
 

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hey guys
im looking at geting a new set of springs. does it make any difference if the front spring has silver nipple? would that work best on a liner?
i found it on the link which was kindly posted before
http://www.shorehamsred.co.uk/page3.html
STAINLESS FRONT & BACK SPRING SET ââ*€šÂ¬Ã‹Å“Silver Contactââ*€šÂ¬Ã¢*€žÂ¢
i heard that silver works well i just want to have my liner working as smoovly as possible...

The silver nipple will give a better/smoother contact,you can also use silver contact screws,they are supposed to be a lot better than brass or steel.
 

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The silver nipple will give a better/smoother contact,you can also use silver contact screws,they are supposed to be a lot better than brass or steel.

will the spring with a silver nipple on this site be suitable for a liner? (0.020ââ*€šÂ¬Ã‚* Gauge)
i cant find them anywhere else.....
 

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Yep,a 0.020 gauge front spring is fine for a liner.
 

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i use feeler gauges to make my springs ,$12 gives you all the spring sizes you need 14, 15,16,17,18,19,20,21 front and rear